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Hi guys, lets say its my turn. I have a Zektar Shrine Expedition with 2 Counters on it, then i play a Mountain, so I get to put a counter on it. Then after all that, my opponent wants to bounce my Expedition back to my hand. Am I able to respond to it by sacrificing it before he can bounce my Expedition?

[[Zektar Shrine Expedition]] [[Into the Roil]]

flag	asked Feb 27 at 16:50 Androth 43●3

You opponent is better off bouncing your 7/1 instead. – EndangeredMassa♦ Feb 28 at 23:37

tobsen · Accepted Answer · 2010-02-27 19:37:48Z UTC

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I think yes, you can:

He puts Into the Roil onto the stack
You sacrifice your Zektar Shrine Expedition

Now the stack resolves: your shrine gets sacrificed and Into the Roil has no valid target - nothing is sent to it's owners hand. He should have saved into the roil until you sacrificed your shrine and should have targeted the 7/1 elemental ;)

edited Feb 27 at 19:37

answered Feb 27 at 17:54

tobsen
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Conversely, if he's using into the roil in response to the ability about to place the third counter you can't because it only has two counters left. – Shushoto♦ Feb 27 at 19:02

good objection Shushoto, I didn't thought about that. Androth wrote "[...]so I get to put a counter on it. Then after all that [...]" so I guess the counter is already on the enchantment – tobsen Feb 27 at 19:46

"Now the stack resolves: your shrine gets sacrificed..." - not exactly; sacrificing is a cost and happens when you play the ability rather than when it resolves – Silly Freak♦ Feb 28 at 9:57

ripper234 · Answer 2 · 2010-02-27 21:34:25Z UTC

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As Shushoto remarked, if he times it correctly there's nothing you can do.

You play a mountain
An "Add one counter" effect goes on the stack
At this point, he can play the roil, before you have 3 counters

This way, you can't use Zektar's ability, and the "add one counter" effect fizzles because the Zektar is in your hand already.

answered Feb 27 at 21:34

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Ok thanks :) He didn't timed it correctly, but I wasn't sure if I could sacrifice in respond, and i didn't. Well the Match ended 1-2 which was my only Lose on the draft tournament on friday >_O – Androth Feb 28 at 17:58

Bouncing a Zektar Shrine Expedition

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